Tiger Woods: Injuries Caused by Wife

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Dec 08, 2009 07:47 PM
REPLYING TO wkingsolomon77 ON Dec 08, 2009 07:21 AM Link Back
Looks like you were right. I predict that other sponsors will do the same...
Gatorade Drops Tiger Woods: Dr. Boyce Money
http://www.bvonmoney.com/2009/12/08/gatorade-drops-tiger-woods/

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Dec 08, 2009 08:51 PM
REPLYING TO crammaster ON Dec 08, 2009 07:40 PM Link Back
crammaster wrote:
One more thing needs to be said. BW are WAY TOO damn tolerant of IR-loving BM celebs Once BM realize an BW celeb are into nothing but WM, BM will knock her off her pedestal so fast, her head will spin like a top. When Halle Berry played a WM's whore in that movie, "Monster's Ball," most of the BM i knew -- including myself -- REFUSED to see it. We wasn't coming out of pocket for that shiit. A lot of BM have also come down on Halle for having a baby out of wedlock with a white dude, and their opinion of her will never be the same. Ain't saying that's right, but it's real...BM would not support a BW who dissed them in magazine interviews, and we wouldn't buy no damn cologne from a BW who poised with a WM to sell it to us. Now, just recently, I saw an ad with User hawking his new cologne, with a WF hanging off his arm.I was like, what the fugg? Who's gonna buy this cologne? Ain't no WW buying no Usher cologne for her WM and she damn sure ain't buying it for herself. Since this celebrity crap cologne comes out every XMAS (the closest they come to "designing" a cologne is slapping their name on a perfume contract),who's gonna buy Usher's cologne? BLACK WOMEN FOR SOME BLACK MANYet, he didn't respect his REAL customers enough to insist they use a BW in the ad??And if I guess right, most of y'all (BW) won't even notice. Now, that's sad, for sisters to have so little self-respect, cause I know y'all better than thatSo, word up ladies, give yourself the best XMAS present you ever gave yourself, and don't spend one dime on any BM celeb who wouldn't spend a dime on you as his lady or wife. RESPECT YOURSELVES -- and pass the word
Again, you make valid points... I'm happy to say I don't buy cologne for the men in my life... My guy wears body oils, not sold in mainstream stores...

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Dec 08, 2009 09:31 PM
REPLYING TO GodivaTee ON Dec 08, 2009 08:51 PM Link Back
does that mean I can count on you to help me spread the word?
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Dec 08, 2009 10:15 PM
REPLYING TO crammaster ON Dec 08, 2009 07:47 PM Link Back
Tiger has no real knowledge of how much money he has,look at his behavior,you can see how they can easily steal from him while he is jumping in and out of bed.All he knew was that he could buy what he wanted
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Dec 08, 2009 10:30 PM
REPLYING TO wkingsolomon77 ON Dec 08, 2009 10:15 PM Link Back
damn, wking, you raising some unheard of points

once again, you might be right

everybody's praising this rich BM's "business" skills, but for all we know, you're right, he might be getting ripped off by his agent/managers/wife/mother-in-law/cocktail waitresses, cleaning ladies/pancake house waitresses and on and on

I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't know where all the money was

not that i give a damn...
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Dec 09, 2009 01:31 AM
REPLYING TO wkingsolomon77 ON Dec 08, 2009 10:15 PM Link Back
check this out

occasionally I experiment posting in west coast forums like Seattle, San Fran, LA, Denver, etc. and if the post has anything to do with race, i almost never get any replies.

The west coast is psychological death for black folks. In my experience, many west coast black folks are so submissive to white supremacy, they act like the white man's eavesdropping on every conversation they have about race. Not surprisingly, the rate of IR, especially for BM, is off the chain.

Those two things seem to go together: unconscious (white-identified) black folks and addictions to white flesh/lovers. IR makes blacks compromise too much, because it is difficult to safely walk the line between OUR black reality and their white lover's white reality. And most white folks do not want to know or hear about what black folks go through and will even act like you're exaggerating about racism when you're being victimized.

These white-identified black folks are deep into denial that in order to keep peace in their IR household they will ignore the signs that their white lovers/spouses are racist, or at least hold a lot of negative opinions about black folks. These black folks think because that white person shares their bed or is hung up on dark meat, that that means they see blacks as equals. Straight BS.

In the book, Trojan Horse: Death of a Dark Nation, there's a chapter called "The Pet Negro Syndrome" which explains this "pet negro" phenomenon, where a white person will accept one black person, but shuns all others as defective.

I remember when this dude, Lee, a BM neighbor, starting dating this white female (who incidentally stole him out from under her black female "friend" (BW start using your heads and STOP bringing these white females around BM -- most are USING you and have NO QUALMS about taking your black man if he allows it)

One day,my lady ran into this white female my neighbor was dating at the grocery store, and they got into a conversation. My lady said, she could tell the white female wasn't comfortable with black people from the things she said and the vibe she gave off.

Cutting to the chase, this white female said to my lady, "I'm so glad Lee is different."

My wife said, "What do you mean, different?" thinking, uh-oh, what kind of BS is coming now?

So, the white female said, "Well, Lee's not like most black guys, he's not ignorant and doesn't use a lot of slang."

My wife said her mouth almost fell open, but she was cool because she wasn't surprised, cause she could tell this female didn't know she was racist.

This BM eventually married her, and i had to wonder, what was this fool azz BM thinking? He obviously didn't know or didn't care what kind of white female she was, so he got what he deserved, in my book

Some black folks are so hypnotized and brainwashed by white supremacy, they become their own worst enemy, and start identifying with their own oppression, to the degree that they turn against their own race.
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Dec 09, 2009 07:28 AM
REPLYING TO crammaster ON Dec 09, 2009 01:31 AM Link Back
I hear you,that is why we have so much work today,there are many of us who are in a poor mental state,thinking that we are well.We feel just because we are not in the hospital we are not sick,just because someone has not called 911 on us also does not mean we are well.
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Dec 09, 2009 08:38 AM
REPLYING TO crammaster ON Dec 08, 2009 09:31 PM Link Back
crammaster wrote:
does that mean I can count on you to help me spread the word?

Already a done deal...

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Dec 09, 2009 05:20 PM
REPLYING TO GodivaTee ON Dec 09, 2009 08:38 AM Link Back
cool

i'll keep u posted
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Dec 09, 2009 05:44 PM
REPLYING TO wkingsolomon77 ON Dec 09, 2009 07:28 AM Link Back
wkingsolomon77,

once a rich/famous BM marries a WW (who is broke when he met her), and they divorce, the next man she gets is USUALLY -- if not always -- a WHITE MAN.

The list is long, but here's a few: Nicole Simpson (OJ's ex-wife) and Montel Williams' ex-stripper, ex-wife...

The white female -- once she gets the rich BM's loot, never looks back and NEVER marries/dates another BM. Why? Because she doesn't need a rich BM's loot anymore, and wants to rejoin respectable white society.

She will NEVER pull up a poor BM, like the rich BM pulled her up. She will NEVER marry a BM gardener, waiter, stripper, or high school dropout...

And you can be damn sure that if Tiger's wife divorces him
that will be the LAST BM she lays down with

which explains why there is so little black generational wealth
despite the HUNDREDS of rich BM and BW that have come and gone

and it explains why the black community is financially POORER than every community in America, including the illegal community

because INTELLIGENT, SELF-RESPECTING MEN enrich their own communties, not the communities of their oppressors

It is also proof that the white man uses his females to keep that black wealth
out of the hands of the next black generation

because even if that white female has children with that rich BM
those black kids will be white-identified and will marry white
because they will be white-identified, with a white female instilling values
and a missing BM father who is already white-identified




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Dec 09, 2009 06:23 PM
REPLYING TO crammaster ON Dec 09, 2009 05:44 PM Link Back
We must define famous,who looks at this people as really famous,that might be well known,but their so-calledfame never last,because they wre not really famous.They might be rich for a short period of time,but their actions are always poor along with their choices.Some people are not really rich they are just highly paid for a period of time,but i do understand your post .You are spreading knowledge all over the place and we who know what time it is are enjoying reading the many post.
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Dec 09, 2009 07:25 PM
REPLYING TO wkingsolomon77 ON Dec 05, 2009 08:48 PM Link Back
wkingsolomon77 wrote:
Would a real man cheat on his wife
Would a REAL man cheat on his wife?
Yes.
Would a HONORABLE man cheat on his wife?
No.
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Dec 09, 2009 07:29 PM
REPLYING TO wkingsolomon77 ON Dec 09, 2009 06:23 PM Link Back
Likewise, I enjoy your posts

just expressing my point of view

when you get time, I added some new posts to my blog at

http://www.blackplanet.com/crammasters

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Dec 09, 2009 07:38 PM
REPLYING TO crammaster ON Dec 09, 2009 05:44 PM Link Back
crammaster wrote:
... The white female -- once she gets the rich BM's loot, never looks back and NEVER marries/dates another BM. Why? Because she doesn't need a rich BM's loot anymore...
But I thought black women were supposed to be the golddiggers?
(sarcasm)
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Dec 09, 2009 08:36 PM
REPLYING TO Cre8ivebeing ON Dec 09, 2009 07:38 PM Link Back
Sister,

A lot of black folks are just black bodies walking around with a white brain (said Malcolm X) and will see (and treat) other black people the way they think white folks want them to treat black people. It's like a white traffic cop living inside their skulls, telling them how to think and what to think, and they are more loyal to that invisible master because they have never overcome their slave mentality.

When you find a BM who thinks like this, for him it feels natural to "trade his cash" to a white female in exchange for white validation and a sense of "normalcy" as a black male in a white supremacy system. She is his ticket to status and normalcy as a despised black male in a white supremacy system. While he is buying her dresses, he is LITERALLY hiding under them.

The white man is this black male's TRUE role model, the human manifestation of the white Jesus that still hangs on too walls in black homes, and this slave-minded male will do anything to imitate the white male, hoping always for the white male's approval. The white male represents status and power to the colonized and powerless black male seeking status.

This is why it is so easy for status-seeking, low-self-esteemed BM to leave the BW out in the cold, because she cannot give him the status he desperately needs because she has no more status than as he does. She is a reminder of his inferiority in a white supremacy system and so she must go.

His need for white validation is so great, he will dishonor his black mother, black daughters, black sisters, black grandmother, black aunts, any and all the BW who have been there for him since birth. He cannot honor them because he does not respect himself.

If this sounds harsh, consider the writings of Frantz Fanon in his
"Black Skins, White Masks:"

Fanon uses psychoanalysis and psychoanalytical theory to explain the feelings of dependency and inadequacy that Black people experience in a White world. He speaks of the divided self-perception of the Black Subject who has lost his native cultural originality and embraced the culture of the mother country.

As a result of the inferiority complex engendered in the mind of the Black Subject, he will try to appropriate and imitate the cultural code of the colonizer. The behaviour, Fanon argues, is even more evident in upwardly mobile and educated Black people who can afford to acquire the trappings of White culture.

ANOTHER CHAPTER

Frantz Fanon in "Black Skin White Masks" describes the Black man?s inferiority complex. ?Out of the blackest part of my soul, across the zebra striping of my mind, surges this desire to be suddenly white. I wish to be acknowledged not as black but as white...who but a white woman can do this for me? By loving me she proves that I am worthy of white love. I am loved like a white man...I marry white culture, white beauty, white whiteness. When my restless hands caress those white breasts, they grasp white civilization and dignity and make them mine....


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Sister, that's the main reason you see some BM with WW who bring nothing to the table, OR why you see rich BM with the kind of cookie-cutter attractive WW that white males find attractive (but who also bring nothing but looks to the table).

It is all about measuring up to the white man's standards, which are NOW this kind of black man's standards. Am I saying a BM can't find a non-black female attractive?

Truthfully, I find all women of all races attractive, and depending on the woman, I've met non-black women who are very appealing, but I keep my eye on the bigger picture, and where my interests lay, that's where I lay my head, my body, and my money, love, time, and attention -- in the black community.

It is one thing for a BM to find a WW attractive; it is another thing for a BM to find nothing BUT a WW attractive. That is the litmus test for a slave-minded BM who does not think for himself.

The reason this post is so long is I want BW to understand this mentality exists is NOT because BW are inferior; it exists because these BM FEEL inferior (to the white man) and are playing ego-catch-up. It exists because a lot of us are still slave-minded with that white traffic cop living inside our skulls.

Where I find fault with BW in all this, is y'all blindly support these sick BM by buying their CDs, their movies, and their cologne even while they ignore you and show NO appreciation for your support.

It's like y'all can't sacrifice one CD or movie to show some respect for yourselves, cause I guarantee you, white females would never support a WM who dished them publicly, didn't date them, or made movies (like the white version of Norbit, or Big Momma's House) that made fun of white females.

Case in point, Robert DeNiro dates/marries BW, but he will NEVER broadcast it, talk about why he doesn't date WW in magazine interviews, or be too visible with his black women. You seldom see him in a movie with one, kissing and hugging on a BW, and you damn sure won't see DeNiro in a cologne ad, with a BW hanging on his arm. DeNiro does NOT disrespect WW because they are his bread and butter -- plus he would not do it as a white man.

Right now, Usher's got a cologne, and just like P. Diddy, he's doing ads where there's a WW hanging on his arm and not a BW in sight. Now, who's gonna buy that cologne? WW for a WM? Or BW for a BM? Sisters are as much to blame for allowing him to profit. BM damn sure wouldn't take that kind of disrespect from you

(sorry about the long post)
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Dec 09, 2009 08:54 PM
REPLYING TO Cre8ivebeing ON Dec 09, 2009 07:38 PM Link Back
i got so carried away I didn't really respond to your comment about BW being golddiggers...lol

My (short) response is:

If it is normal for a BM to give a WW (and white masters) his money; it feels ABNORMAL for a BW (or black person) to profit. Just as it feels "normal" to shop at a white (or Korean) store; but "abnormal" to support our own.

Deep down, we know instinctively that supporting or rewarding our own, is taboo in a white supremacy system. That's why a white female snatching a rich BM's loot hardly gets our attention, and why Robin Givens caught so much heat when she married and divorced Mike Tyson.

Had Mike married a blonde WW, nobody woud have been surprised because secretly a lot of us thinks it's "normal" to give white people whatever we have. In other words, a BW will always catch more flak for doing what the WW has been doing for decades.

It's just a slave tradition, Cre8ivebeing.

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Dec 10, 2009 12:16 AM
REPLYING TO crammaster ON Dec 09, 2009 08:54 PM Link Back
I wanted to add that BW are guilty of the same behavior, only it's easier to see it when it's a matter of respect as opposed to money. Some BW will give a WM respect automatically but a BM has to damn near fight for that respect and many times will NOT get it from BW.

It's the same slave mentality, only with some BM, they are more likely to give the WW their money as opposed to their respect.

Some BW think it's NORMAL to trust, respect, and believe the WM, and ABNORMAL to trust, respect and believe the BM.

It's all about 500 plus years of conditioning and programming, so BW are just as jacked up as the BM and JUST AS LIKELY to deny that they are, so sisters need to do some of their own soul-searching instead of just pointing the fingers at the BM.

The reason I get on the BM more, is WE are supposed to be the leaders, the providers, and the protectors of the women and children in our community. What we do (or don't do) has the biggest positive (or negative) effect on the black community.
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Dec 10, 2009 02:25 PM
REPLYING TO wkingsolomon77 ON Dec 09, 2009 06:23 PM Link Back
Tiger's Porn Star Jumpoff Says He Is The Whitest Black Boy Ever


http://theurbandaily.com/music/porn-star-jumpoff-says-tiger-is-the-whitest-black-boy-ever/

This is not about spreadin more gossip, but to point out some things happening beneath the surface.

1). White people are not fooled by these white-identified blacks. Even worse, many white males AND females automatically assume that any black man or woman who is NOT a ghetto stereotype is trying to be white, which says blacks (like Tiger) are dealing with white RACISTS and don't know (or care).

2). Even though Tiger has an Asian mother, none of his women have been Asian. There's a serious head problem when a man rejects women who are the same race as his MOTHER

3). The Asian community has NEVER embraced Tiger Woods as one of their own, nor has he apparently pursued their support (to my knowledge).When Tiger made up that fake racial name for himself -- casablanasian -- he put CAUCASIAN first and Asian third, EVEN though he was raised with a black father and an Asian mother.

4).This Tiger circus has pulled the raggedy covers (and glamour) off this BM/WW phenomenon, and will possibly make a lot more blacks question the true motives of such unions.

5). A lot of BW tell me they feel vindicated (and relieved) by this fraudulent marriage (Tiger picking the whitest woman he could find, and his wife wanting more money to stay with him), andmy BM associates are looking at this IR thing in more depth (and more negatively)

some good may come out of this Tiger circus after all...
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Dec 10, 2009 02:56 PM
OPINION: OK, It?s Time to Leave Tiger Woods Alone
By Dr. Boyce Watkins December 10, 2009 11:56 am









Tiger Woods has changed right before
our eyes. He was once an American hero, and has been since reduced (to
many) to be a no good, dirty, lying, cheating dog. Tiger now comes off
to some as a typical oversexed athlete who can?t keep his you-know-what
in his pants and makes it his job to break women?s hearts. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. If you hate Tiger Woods, then join the club. I am disappointed
in Tiger Woods too.

But it?s time to move on from that. Tiger is better than this and
so are we. Yes, Tiger Woods appears to be a man with a ?complicated?
lifestyle, but he is also a man who found a way to achieve things that
no human being in the history of the world has ever been able to
accomplish. He has carried the banner for African American golf on his
shoulders and single-handedly beat the living crap out of hundreds of
other participants in an historically racist sport. He was Barack
Obama before Barack came along. Tiger filled us with hope and made us
believe that black people could do anything.

I don?t know about you, but I am personally done Tiger-bashing. I am
emotionally drained from reading about porn stars, car accidents,
domestic violence and every other tid bit of information delivered to
the world by TMZ helicopters. I don?t want to see another mistress,
for I am sure there are others out there, and I don?t care that they
are all white: If Tiger can?t see the beauty in black women, then
that?s his problem, not mine. I only want to let this story die like
the rest of them so that Tiger and everyone else can go on to something
more important.

Tiger might need psychiatric help, we know that. A cheating man is
one thing, but messing with porn stars means that you are putting your
spouse?s life in danger. While I?ve taken a public stand against
Tiger?s wife Elin going upside his head with a golf club, there is a
big part of me that understands her rage. I am sure though, that in
spite of Elin Nordegren?s legitimate anger, most women get cheated on
and never receive a promise of $80 million dollars to make the pain go
away. So, in some ways, my sympathy for both she and Tiger is somewhat
limited.

But while Tiger might need psychiatric help for his sexual issues,
we all need a psychiatrist to help us understand our obsession with his
private life. I would be the first in line to meet the therapist, for
I?ve personally written eight articles about Tiger Woods in the last
five days alone, along with roughly 15 media appearances to discuss the
issue. Sure, it was part of my job, but I have to confess that even I
was curious about the ?real? Tiger Woods: The man who wasn?t the result
of some carefully crafted, artificial, maliciously guarded image that
was created by ?Team Tiger? (isn?t that a stupid name anyway?). I?d
never felt that the perfect man with the 10 foot smile could actually
be a real human being. It turns out that he is more human than the
rest of us, at least off the golf course.

I saw a map on the Internet that showed the prevalence of Internet
searches for the term ?Tiger Woods? shortly after the scandal first
broke with his wife. Of course, the United States was lit up like a
Christmas tree, since we were all pretty much obsessed with the story.
The same is true for Europe. But what I also noticed was that almost
no other country in the world showed even a fraction of the interest in
the story that we were showing in the United States. This proves that
Americans don?t have many problems, and no interest in meaningful
social or political events. We don?t have to worry about war, famine,
or political turmoil. Instead, we can grab a bag of chips and plant
our fat butts on the couch to watch Nancy Grace mull over the same
ridiculous details each day, with the same pictures, the same guests
and same subtitles on the screen. In many ways, we are pathetic and
this is getting embarrassing. The way we?ve analyzed Tiger Woods? life
over the past few days is a sad reflection on the state of our society.

So Tiger, I apologize. I am going to get a life and leave you
alone. I want you and your family to go to your private island, sip
iced tea and ?kick it? till your marital problems blow away in the
wind. But while I am truly sorry for obsessing over your life for the
past few days, the saddest part of it all is that I would probably do
it all over again. When I figure out why that is, I?ll let you know.

Dr. Boyce Watkins is the founder of the Your Black World Coalition. For more information, please visit www.BoyceWatkins.com.







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Dec 10, 2009 03:30 PM
REPLYING TO crammaster ON Dec 09, 2009 08:36 PM Link Back
I am loving your POV and what you're saying makes a lot of sense.
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Dec 10, 2009 03:37 PM
REPLYING TO feelzblessed ON Dec 10, 2009 03:30 PM Link Back
then pass it on, sister,

forward the link, email the posts, print it, mail it, slap your name on it,

plant whatever seeds you can plant

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Dec 10, 2009 04:21 PM
REPLYING TO hallieberries66 ON Dec 10, 2009 02:56 PM Link Back
The beautiful thing about the Internet is everybody's entitled to their opinion...

in saying that, this is not about bashing Tiger's personal life, this is about the MESSAGE BM like him send to all BM collectively, and ULTIMATELY, the way BM see BW.

If you are a BW, I hope you realize the Tigers of the world could care less what you think. BM like this -- and i know quite a few -- don't even take BW's feelings into consideration. In many cases, they despise BW, and influence younger BM to "leave that black stuff alone." (OJ Simpson).

If you think a BM is a "great role model" because he makes millions swinging a mean golf club, and has been awarded another "first black" title, that's your opinion. My opinion and my stats say that the black family/black community is on a path of destruction.

1) with 45% of BW who will never marry,
2) 70% of black children being raised in single female households,
3) 1 out 4 young BM are either locked up, on probation, or on parole, (most of whom are fatherless)
4) and black girls suffering from low-self-esteem because they see these Tigers as more evidence that they are undesirable (hence the black girls wearing blonde weaves all over the community from girls who are often fatherless)

As long as the above is MY black reality, I will continue waging verbal war gainst IR because it divides an already fractured and failing community, pits BM against BW, and threatens our survival.

I respect your opinion, because you have the right to express it, just like all the posters on this thread.

Some of us are more focused on the bigger picture, because we understand that these high-profile BM marriages send a dangerous message to black male youth. I'm happy az hell that the covers were pulled off this persistent and false image of domestic interracial perfection.

Tiger made millions from his public image of a "squeaky clean" black guy who totally ignored the existence of black people AND the beauty and sexuality of BW.

Once a man (or woman) seeks fame, pushes a false image to the public, and PROFITS from it, he must take the good with the bad, and lie in the bed he made.
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Dec 10, 2009 04:54 PM
REPLYING TO hallieberries66 ON Dec 10, 2009 02:56 PM Link Back
You can have a life and focus on others life,Tigers life is a current event and a news topic.There is nothing wrong with focusing on Tigers life,because it can be a lesson learned.We all can learn from those who sit high and fall low.I bet Tiger is learning more than we are.When you see how Tiger lived his life,you can tell the young boys,don,t think you are fooling people,cause the same people who build you up will knock you down,Plus Tiger wanted people to get into his business,that is why he ran with that crowd,he knew it was just a matter of time,what we have in our lives is what we wanted through are actions and thought pattern.Tiger wanted out of this marriage and his behavior showed the american public that .
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Dec 10, 2009 05:07 PM
REPLYING TO wkingsolomon77 ON Dec 10, 2009 04:54 PM Link Back
wkingsolomon77,

you are absolutely right. There are lessons to be learned, and an opportunity to teach should never be ignored. Tiger wanted the money that came from fame, and his squeaky clean image. He just got a taste of the flip side, by his own HAND.

The same way OJ sits in a prison cell, by his OWN hand. You can have compassion for anyone, even a criminal, but that doesn't require you to ignore or condone his behavior.

Bottom line, when a zebra break from the herd to run with lions (his predators), the other zebras should not risk their (psychological) lives trying to protect a zebra who didn't want to be part of the herd...

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